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Post by sam on Apr 30, 2007 22:39:38 GMT 1
ok despite the slippage...PIZZA today i weighed in at 103.8kg 16st5lbs a total loss of 4.2kg or 9.25lbs for those oldies in here
21 days so far.. nice steady weight loss.. woo i love it
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Post by sam on May 7, 2007 23:17:24 GMT 1
weight today.. 103.5kg
i have slowed right down now.. i have upped my cardio and increased upper body strength work using dumbells
thsi weeknd just gone i threw a SB 54.37m and i am now looing forward to the counties
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Post by dobster on May 8, 2007 10:48:05 GMT 1
Good man - keep it going - for you there is no harm in including some power work as well to compliment your weight l;oss and also your jav throwing - keep focussed and you will get below 100 in no time.
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Post by jeremy on May 15, 2007 23:05:44 GMT 1
Well done Sam,
Just do 60 burpees evry time you're hungry, then have a pint of water and 3 handfuls of fruit.
Keep up the good work!
Jezza
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Post by sam on May 15, 2007 23:14:36 GMT 1
sounds like a plan.. not sure it's going to go down too well on the packed tube's or in the office though
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Post by pembrokian on Apr 29, 2008 12:37:29 GMT 1
Time I chipped in with my tuppence worth on this sensitive subject; one in which I have plenty of experience, about 100 kg's worth to be exact.
To me the crux of the problem is typified in the title of the thread "Sam's bodyWEIGHT" which (I believe) should read Sam's bodyFAT.
My problem isn't that my weight is 100kg, it's that my % fat is 24% (a quarter of my body is lard - scary). If I weighed what I weigh now, but only had, say, 15% bodyfat I'd be delighted. Daley Thompson had a BMI that would have put him close to obese when he broke the World decathlon record for a second time.
Rosemary Connelly and her cohorts have much to be blamed for in this respect. These diet clubs should be focussing on getting people to reduce their bodyfat % rather than focussing on simple weight. However measuring % fat is difficult to do with any accuracy and takes time and expertise. Much easier and quicker to get someone to hop on/off some scales and fleece £5 for the privilage. If these clubs worked they'd put themselves out of business; their business model actually relies on people failing and paying to come back again.
It's worth noting that 4/5 of all attendees at Weightwatchers are "repeat offenders". A 1 in 5 success rate is hardly a ringing endorsement for their methods. The principle reason for this failure rate is that most of their adherants simply reduce their bodymass by eating less; they don't necessarily change what they eat or their exercise regime. So they go from being large and pear-shaped to being a bit smaller and pear-shaped instead !
This, in the long term, actually worsens their situation. To appreciate this one needs to understand that the body will try to oppose any change placed upon it. If one suddenly reduces the number of calories coming in, the body will naturally take steps to prepare for what it perceives as a famine.
It does this in two ways, both detrimental in the long term :
(i) food stores are laid down as fat wherever possible (ii) the body will start to catabolise muscle as a food source !
So not only are you now storing fat but you're also losing the ability to burn it. However, from the weightwatchers point of view, things look rosey in the short term because muscle is more dense than fat so initially you lose weight. However the body composition is changing for the worse, and on two fronts.
Ultimately this leads to lethargy and, with a diminuation of willpower, the weight goes back on and eating habits return to pre-diet levels.
There is another, potentially lethal, weight loss trick I see every August. First couple fo weeks in the hottest month of the year the roads round my home become inundated with overweight (or should that be "overfat") 40-something Sunday-league footballers rustling along on a jogging spree to get "fit for the season".
Why are they rustling ? Because they're wearing binbags under their tops to promote excessive sweating. I've even seen commericially available versions of this death trap advertised in some womens "health" magazines.
The reason they do this is that it results in sudden, dramatic weight loss (almost all of which is replaced by the next drink). The danger here is that almost all of this weight loss is fluid in the form of sweat. This has the effect of thickening the blood which, in turn, places enormous strain on the heart (try sucking a MacDonalds milk shake through a narrow straw to see the effect). To top it all these are exactly the very people who's hearts aren't in the best shape to begin with.
So how am I going about changing my body composition ? Well for one thing I don't measure my weight, I try to measure my fat instead. A tape measure does the trick. I also measure my ability to do a fixed amount of work at the lowest possible heart rate (using a polar HR monitor and a cross trainer). Ideally I should use calipers and do skinfold measurements but our scales also measure bodyfat (they're not as accurate and it's important to ensure your feet are dry when you get on them because they measure electrical resistance through the body).
I'm trying to attack this on three fronts :
(i) exercise - increasing the amount of aerobic work in my sessions - not too easy as I recently had an operation on my left knee which cut back a lot on this; but now I can walk good distances and use a cross-trainer.
(ii) diet - no radical changes. Even though my diet was diabolical wholesale changes in one hit don't help. Every month I change one thing as I move gradually to a better diet - I reckon I'm about halfway there. First reduce the instances of takeaways and such like, then move from full-sugar to diet drinks, then cut down on alcohol, introduce more fruit and veg, remove chocolate etc. Doing the whole lot at once to shock the body can have exactly the opposite effect to what's wanted; remember your body has probably had many years of getting used to your current regime.
(iii) sleep. Getting better quality sleep (difficult with my job) is probably the single most important thing you can do. Don't underestimate this; if your going to improve your diet and exercise regimes you'll need willpower and nothing undermines willpower faster than a lack of sleep. That's why sleep-deprivation is the first thing any torturer does to a victim; it weakens the will fatser than anything else. It's no co-incidence for me that those times when I lapse and "order a pizza" or skip training are always when I'm tired and been working all night.
Well, as promised, my diatribe on dieting and such like - now for lunch; tuna salad, how saintlike ?
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Post by jimevs on Apr 29, 2008 12:57:33 GMT 1
Nice post Pemborkian! I personally think that weight can be more of an issue than body fat% in some instances. For example I was recently close to 15 stone and my body fat% was about 14 which is not anything special but also fairly healthy. Thing my body couldn't cope with that weight and the forces on my joints have left me somewhat ragged. Now I am trying desperately to get my bodyweight down which will not be totally through a reduction in body fat. I think that is as much one of Sam's goals given his problems with muscles and joints in the past that he will be able to cope better at a lower body weight. True, the aim is mostly to lose fat but also to be at a bodyweight that the body can manage.
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Post by pembrokian on Apr 29, 2008 13:33:01 GMT 1
I have a similar issue in that I can't take impact through my left knee. The answer (for me at least) is cardio machines in a gym. I know the image of a gym-bunny doesn't fit well in the macho world of javelin throwing but it's ideal if you've got sore joints or shins (I've even had to take up discus and shot so I could keep throwing something). Swimming is another good one but the breaststroke kick is to be avoided (so my surgeon tells me).
Exercise it off, Sam !
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Post by sam on Apr 29, 2008 14:38:32 GMT 1
aaah i read this just as i seit down with a salad and a chicken escalop for lunch..
i think the scary thing for me is looking back at this and seeing that in a year i have gone from 103kg to 113kg+.. i did have the knee injury which led me to inactivity and more comfort eating but surely now i should have burned it all off..
i was dissapointed recently though to see i had put 6lbs on despite being able to get into my jeans easier, have more loose end on my belt and after eating healthier...problem was i was power lifting in the gym.. my chest has got back to where it was a year ago...but the fat has remained...
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Post by pembrokian on Apr 29, 2008 15:43:27 GMT 1
That's not a gut, Sam; it's just the weight of your p*cker dragging your chest down !
More importantly, how's the throwin' goin' ?
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Post by sam on Apr 29, 2008 17:17:20 GMT 1
throwing was going ok till i tore some muscle fibres last tuesday in my calf totally did my head in and hurt a lot.. feeling great right now though (compared to how it was last week
see my injury topic about it
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Post by sam on May 21, 2008 16:17:16 GMT 1
Right here is the score...
I have been on an enforced diet by my GF since monday the 5th of May
Breakfast is: Porridge and juice Mid morning snack is either a banana and apple or a low calorie snack Lunch is either of the following: salad with a meat of some kind or tuna Pasta with a meat of some kind or tuna rice with a meat of some kind or tuna
afternoon snack is fresh fruit salad no toppings
Dinner is either Tuna steaks, chicken, salads, a whole host of vegetables (see it's forced i told you) desert is a fresh fruit salad with a topping
I started out at 18st 2lbs...
At the weekend i weighed in at 17st8lbs
I have lost 2 inches from my waist
I feel lighter and i am looking better in the gut department.
this is week 3 and i am hoping that i have dropped to at least 17st6lbs
it's working this time around for me because my lunches are pre-packed by my gf the previous evening and i leave my bank card and money at home. there is no chance of me buying crisps and fizzy drinks all day long as i am filling my gut with either de-caf coffee or plain water. the main thing i have found is to space the meals and snacks out to avoid feeling too hungry.
I am feeling positive about it for the first time ever...
I hope it will not be too long before i can report me being back under 17st..
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Post by wez on May 21, 2008 20:13:41 GMT 1
Well done GF! that sounds like a sustainable diet and one that you can actually train hard on! for god sakes stick to it this time man....
Fruit and veg really is the key, especially for snacks because they don't make you fat but they do take the hunger away + being good for you!!!!!
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Post by Caroline on May 22, 2008 0:21:42 GMT 1
Keep going Sam, and remember to keep those portions small! Having lost 4.5 stone in the past 7 months I understand how difficult it can be, but stick at it and you'll be a shadow of your present self in no time. The unfair part of it (sorry girls) is that for some reason men lose weight far quicker than us ladies, so it should be a breeze for you!! ;D
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Post by sam on May 22, 2008 10:38:23 GMT 1
Today's meals are....
Porridge for breakfast and some orange squash (ran out of juice)
Mid morning snack has been.. an apple and a banana
lunch is pasta with tuna and a chilli dressing (no mayo) with some pirri pirri flavoured chicken breast
afternoon snack will be another apple and or a banana
dinner tonight is jacket potato (minimum fat) no cheese, low fat turkey rashers and salad
weigh in day will be tomorrow morning as i am away all weekend and not near my scales..
MY CLOTHES ARE BECOMMING MUCH LOOSER!!!
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