are you aroused?

[slinger]

I'm sure we all have training sessions were we felt relaxed, focused and comfortable and threw really well - without seeming to do much or try very hard? yet in competition where we tried 'hell for leather' we botched it up, i for one did in my biggest ever competition.

channeling aggression into the throw is a strange thing, as if i watched videos of myself throwing in training i was technically better than competition yet in competition i would throw a bit further - only a bit but still further..........this has led me thinking if i wasn't as pumped up BEFORE the throw maybe i would have had better results? maybe if i'd let all my aggression out at release then it would have been technically better with crucially the same aggression and focus as a throw were i was pumped up prior to the throw???

what got me thinking about this was that mike, the lad i coach is notoriously laid back and too placid so he was trying to get psyched up and 'aroused' and yes the javelin went quite far, but technically it wasn't too good - so what should i/we do? leave the technical stuff or work on the arousal level? i think we mustn't let the technical level slip and my thinking is that the arousal level will rise with a competitive environment.......

maybe some of us are too aroused and too excited that technical skills learned are forgotten and therefore wasted - food for thought me thinks!!!!

watch some vids of the top throwers - on their good and best throws i can't recall seeing any of them 'going nuts' before running up, can you? yes they look focused with eyes glazed and determined, a look of relaxation springs to mind as they run and then at release does the "expression" come out.....

just a few things to think about and maybe one or two of you are in the same boat???

[H]

Sharpey lad,

I think sometimes in some people it can work against the throw to get so psyched up!! Because you can only compete how you train!! Of course you are naturally going to have more adrenalin etc but essentially you are going to throw the same!

I have had some of my best throws on the back of heavy nights on the sauce and turning up late with no warm up, and being in the state of mind that iwas gonna get whipped by plunkett and sketchley that i threw 67 and bits on the first throw!! Being relaxed is the key!! But a nice bit of controlled aggression never hurt anyone!!

[sam]

i always find that my best throws come when i am, as you say, aroused (still unsure of the use of that word...) but everyone can see that i should be throwing much further.

the thing is the more "aroused" i get the slower i am at the end of the run-up and the more tense i am..yet this is when my furthest throws occur. It is the inbuilt belief that i have to be in this state to hit these distances because it is when being in this state that the pb's come.

I feel that if i could learn to be more relaxed and controlled the throw would be faster and be reaching much bigger gains than the gains i accept by throwing the way i do now.

sam

[slinger]

he of little karma!!! find yourself up a notch! ;D

........that's what i'm saying!!!

*not finishing the post as H just rang me and spent 31 minutes telling me how buff he looked!!!!! ;D nah seriously chris get out with the javs tomorrow!!!!

[sam]

the thing is though that no matter how Buff chris gets he will still be ginger.....

[slinger]

good point sam.....oh my god! what's happened to H's karma??? sam have you been tinkering??? hahahahahaha!!!!

i was looking in AW in the summer and there were two pictures of two javelin throwers one of tero pitkamaki - he of world number 1 and 91m fame and one of stuart harvey - he of 66m fame @ 17 years old, which of course is very good......both pictures were taken during the X over phase one of the athletes was relaxed the other very tense [facial expressions give a lot away] no surprises who the relaxed athlete was - tero pitkamaki.....

arousal is basically the level of excitement you have.......and i guess how excited you are is determined by the importance of the situation you are in, if you are in a life threating situation then then level of arousal would be at it's highest yet performing a daily mundane task, such as washing the dishes the level would be very low, i'm sure we all rate throwing javelins very important to us therefore excitement and arousal levels being high and i guess the key is actually controlling this level of arousal so we don't go over board and get too tense, hence a break down in technical skill.

[slinger]

surely you didn't go there with the ginger thing?


*cue bombardment of red headed javelin throwers wanting to stick spears into sam!!!!! ;D

are ginger gags racist?

[H]

Ginger??? I'm blonde(Highlighted maybe but still blonde)

Anyone know why my karma was so low?? I'm lovely!!!

Mr Everard let me know if you wanna train!!! Gonna up the throwing ten fold!!! Don't worry i'll get up!! lol.

[slinger]

chris you are ginger, be proud of it! it's okay to have red hair - any hair's better then no hair - trust me!!!!!!!!! fight back and stand up for yourself you big wimp, thought you'd been in the gym doing your bicep curls.......you should be a mean mofo now!!!!!! kick some ass!

[H]

ginger my ass!!! i may have auburny bits!! but i diguise them with trips to the salon!! ha ha

[eggbert000]

Only just seen this well slinger the throwing javelins at sam sounds an idea! (only jokin) ;D
Also been relaxed does help i used to be very tense on the run up but learnt to calm down due to been sent on a state management course throu work. this now means i can channel all agression in the right way

[slinger]

he's blatantly racist.........

he probably fears ginger peolple that's all, it's not his fault, it's society that's let him down, shall we forgive him??? ;D

[eggbert000]

let him off suppose so.

[H]

i'll decide his punishment another day!!

maybe a 6 hour session listening to nosey's bant!! lol

only kidding dav

[Renna]

Nothing wrong with gingers ...anyways, im strawberry blonde! lol