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Post by slinger on Jul 23, 2009 13:31:38 GMT 1
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/8160041.stmI find this quite saddening, especially at such a young age. Tim was an athlete of a similar age to me and grew up alongside in the junior ranks. A prodigious talent - we often say that about our junior athletes, but Tim had serious world class pedigree. I first remember seeing his name as a 100/200m runner when he was under 15 going into the u/17's and he remained a 200m runner throughout his junior days - one highlight I'll always remember was seeing him and his lifelong athletics mate MLF doing some 30m sprint starts in a training camp we were at in Florida and he beat MLF at every one of the 10 or so they did. A week later MLF won the WJ 100m title in 10.12. The last time I spoke to Tim I reminded him of that camp and he said he thought he was going to run 9.9 for the one after stuffing Mark at the 30's! - great days. Of course he turned his hand to the 400 and if only he had some injury free time at this event, as he could of been a real world beater - infact he was in 2005 at Palace beating Jeremy Wariner for his first sub 45 secs 400. Ranked 6th all time in the UK, only 2 tenths off the UK record, I do believe if he was fit for long enough he'd have broken Iwan Thomas' record and who knows might of even ran a 43.? A big shame as another of our talents leaves the sport.
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Post by sam on Jul 24, 2009 10:57:35 GMT 1
retiring at 27 because of a few injuries which if left to heal for a longer perriod of time would be no problem to him, just shouts out.. hissy fit to me.
look at all that dave has gone through yet he is still going at it with the belief that he will find that 80m form.
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Post by Caroline on Jul 24, 2009 11:25:53 GMT 1
That's probably the unkindest post you've ever made, Sam. To describe one of our great athletes who has to retire after a series of injuries in those terms is both uncalled for and unnecessary.
Let's hope you wont be looking for any sympathy next time you pick up an injury.
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Post by sam on Jul 24, 2009 12:13:04 GMT 1
caroline i'm always injured
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Post by wez on Jul 24, 2009 13:18:47 GMT 1
Luckily Sam's such a tough guy that he never complains about minor things Don't mistake injury for just being out of condition and experiencing niggles, that is normal for every athelte regardless of the sport. If you try to push your body to do things that it is ill prepared for its no huge surprise to find that it doesn't like it. Seriously..... when an athlete retires its their own buisness and they probably have a multitude of their own reasons for doing so. One more thing, when an athlete announces their retirement why is it that we so often see them back in action......maybe sometimes they just need some mental time out and annoncing it publically is one way.
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Post by sam on Jul 24, 2009 14:41:52 GMT 1
agreed. i reckon we will see tim back ready for another go at 2012. he still has 10 years of top flight 400m's ahead of him to give up at 27 is just crazy
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Post by slinger on Jul 24, 2009 19:50:09 GMT 1
A reckoning based on what?
Sam you chat some cr@p at times, do you just make it up?
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Post by pj on Jul 24, 2009 21:23:23 GMT 1
As usual I am only surmising here. Was Tim still supported by Lottery Funding?
If UKA have been true to form, he would have been dropped by now.
There were supposed to have been safeguards to protect funded athletes through long periods of illness and injury. Make no bones about it, what do you do if you get injured, lose your lottery funding, kit sponsorship and other sponsorship due to long term injuries? This is what has happened to a lot of top class athletes over the years. Tim is one of many.
Many of those don't announce their retirement. They just fade away.
Names? Tony Jarrett, Nick Nieland to name two. Also whatsisname? The 1500m runner? Anybody remember others in this 'early retirement' category?
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Post by pj on Jul 25, 2009 10:43:05 GMT 1
To Tim's eternal credit. he did say that it would be disingenuous to hold down places in the GB team at 400 and the relay with all the talent around that is ambitious to make the team for the 2012 Olympics. He is obviously aware that although he has done a competitive time this year he is not in the sort of form that will be competitive through the rounds on the higher stages. I, for one, admire him for what he has done. He had retained his 'Podium Funding' status through his illness and injury setbacks.
Credit to UKA for standing by him, deservedly imop. Perhaps he will make it back when the Olympic frenzy picks up to fever pitch. He would certainly be a great back up in the Relay Squad.
Footnote. Michael East was the 1500m runner I was thinking of.
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