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Post by sam on Sept 9, 2008 23:49:01 GMT 1
not only is he lying abou this performances he's lying about his nationality too!!!
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Post by lifebeginsat40 on Sept 10, 2008 0:58:49 GMT 1
not only is he lying abou this performances he's lying about his nationality too!!! He isnt lying actually, as here are the results! Quite clearly British, and clearly didnt start. www.has.hr/hanzek/rmjt.htm
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Post by dobster on Sept 10, 2008 1:18:38 GMT 1
not only is he lying abou this performances he's lying about his nationality too!!! For gods sake Sam stop being so pathetic, purile and childish on this. This issue is now dead - whoever is now the admin to this site lets lock the thread and cast it to the archive!!!!
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Post by pj on Sept 10, 2008 8:20:07 GMT 1
Sam, If I were you I would bale out of this site as I have done. The innocent get attacked more than the guilty on here. No point going on.
And for having a sense of humour........tut....tut!.
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Post by sam on Sept 10, 2008 8:34:12 GMT 1
the issue isn't done tom. There has been no apology to the throwers in the 2008 rankings or the throwers in the all time list that he attempted to better by lying about his performance. It's not the first time he's done it and it probably won't be the last. I cannot see how, without an apology, he can expect to turn up at any british event next season and not expect a hostile reception. It takes a big man to admit one's failures.. He obviously isn't one.
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Post by carrie on Sept 10, 2008 8:51:07 GMT 1
Someone has done a misprint on official forms somewhere because if you google chris hughff usa, there are four separate websites for the Zagreb meeting which indicate he is American!! The internet is a source of information but not always accurate! Before anyone shoots me, I'm only saying what I saw.
To be honest, the only reply that is needed on this thread now is from the man himself to explain, and / or admit error.
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Post by pj on Sept 10, 2008 9:27:54 GMT 1
And I took Sam's comment as a joke!
So it is fact H has defected!
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Post by hollingworth on Sept 10, 2008 9:38:25 GMT 1
nationalitys apart, I was hoping for an interesting result after all this talk, who decides who goes looking at the result we could have sent someone over and won it lots of our guys capable of that.
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Post by nije on Sept 10, 2008 10:47:29 GMT 1
It looks more like a domestic meet as they all seem to be from the former Yugoslavia. It is down on iAAf as one of their secnd tier meets. There couldn't have been any money as nobody from the world top 50 (elligible for GP - apparently you need at least 4 competitors from top 4 if you look in their rules on how to run a GP meet!) seems to have shown up.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 10, 2008 11:37:00 GMT 1
The meeting was part of the world athletics tour. Marlon Devonish appears to be the only British male to make the trip with some under par perfomances in the 100/200. Tasha Danvers was also there, she won the 400h. There were some big names there, Kamel in the 1500, Robles in the 110, Campbell Brown, Barber and Edwards in the w100 and Vlasic in the high jump. iaaf.org/gp08/results/eventcode=3929/index.html
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Post by sam on Sept 10, 2008 12:19:29 GMT 1
not to mention a north, central america & C record int he women's hammer by Yipsi Moreno with a throw of 76.62m!!
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Post by slinger on Sept 10, 2008 14:22:16 GMT 1
Thanks Carrie, I guess this clears this matter up once and for all. The official results say 70.97 and the claimed 74.97 is not true. I guess its a shame we didn't hear from Chris to know this. sorry for being waaay behind on this one, but i only thought to check this thread after reading AW at my mum's lastnight and seeing a report on H's progress this year and switching from multi's to jav. so cheers carrie for finding that result, i take it from those who know this kind of document it's all legit and it really is 70.97m? ..sorry to keep asking but i want to be totally sure in my own mind.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 10, 2008 14:26:49 GMT 1
Yes that's right, according to Power of 10 the National Union of Track Statistics, the meeting organiser and the officials involved the actual result was 70.97. I understand that AW were not aware of this situation before the article went out but they have contacted us and the meeting organisers since.
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Post by nije on Sept 10, 2008 15:24:32 GMT 1
I meant for the javelin i.e. the money went to the other events! I also read the results and all the other stuff including the start lists that had him down as USA!
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Post by pj on Sept 10, 2008 20:01:56 GMT 1
This is my swansong on JCUK.
I have known H for a number of years because he was friendly with my son. I know David to be honest, a man of integrity and hard-working. Whilst having difficulties with his own 'game' he has to the best of my knowledge encouraged and helped others, especially in the Javelin but also in training, coaching and life.
I do not have the same convictions for H. I, amongst others, have given him chances galore to post on here what happened. I know certain people still support him and the Administration has censored certain posts ( some of them my light-hearted ones). I don't have a problem with that. Two and a half years ago I had a stroke at the age of 58. Closely followed by an Endarterectomy and then 12 days in a Psychiatric Unit. That was put down to a Chemical imbalance. It took me over 6 months to recover but I had to face my own mortality for the first time in my life and it definitely changed me. At the time David was at the Commonwealth Games and we had booked most of the Athletics sessions in the MCG. On Dr's advice I had to cancel. My wife and I lost our deposits. From then I vowed not to look on the dark side ever again. I vowed to have an over-egged sense of humour so that if I was down, and I had had plenty of causes to be, I would overcome it. I vowed that I would battle for funding for Javelin in line with other events but at the same time make a case for all Athletics events to be treated equally; be covered on TV in equality of time and image. This I am in the process of doing, but sadly no longer on JCUK. I have done my fair share of coaching, not with perhaps as much success as I would have liked but I have had my moments,
I have constructed this because at about the same time H was in trouble in the Army (or was it the RAF?). I think he was in Jankers but might have been in a Civvy jail. I know why, as I am sure many of you do on here. A lot of people that I know have helped him get back on the straight and narrow and I am sure some of you on here have. I stayed friendly with him and he stayed in the family house. David was friendly with him. He had a right to be rehabilitated.
His response to all this, has been to denigrate many around him, on this site; David being one of them. In the week of the Olympic Trials he posted on here about his 74.97 (yeah buddy ) in the same week as slapping all his fellow competitors in the face.
Still there are people supporting him, standing up for him and virtually saying, 'Well it is not such a bad thing is it?' But if he had made up 85 metres, well that would be a different story'
I have met and know Dwain Chambers. Without being sympathetic to what he has done; it is in the open; he has admitted how stupid he was and he has served his time. Between H and Dwain I know who I would have on my team!
I apologise if my acerbic sense of humour upsets anybody but sometimes that is what is needed.
If your sense of humour is clouded by your 'inability to see the wood from the trees' then you don't have one.
Phil
PS. Please remove my subscription.
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