breaux greer 'eye of the tiger'

[slinger]

aj25 said:

Man you boys have got it wrong- i didnt say that is all he does- or anything about drills etc.. i simply put a clip on here showing a JAVELIN thrower doing summit a lil different.... and described the theory behind it. I dont know him at all,dont even know where or when he did it, but i think its great and if any you guys can work like that irrespective if you think it has no relavence in our sport, then apolgies.

As regards to runnin after chickens etc... think of it as an saq drill-you'd need to have speed,agility,and quickness...again something us javelin throwers do and need....again i aint telling you to try it.

If you dont like it dont try it simple as that.

I cant remember the sprinters name- but- he was one of britians best white sprinters. He did most of his work on a bag/speedball and very rarely did weights, this increased his speed/power output etc...

But again if you dont like it,dont try it.

train hard/eat good

;D

i didn't say that YOU said it was all he did! it was said meaning that perhaps breaux or who ever posted it should have titled the vid better!.............it was just a gag!!! that's all.

as for catching chickens.......again a gag! - just showing my rocky knowledge but tbh i wouldn't try it......it'd hurt my back running bent down like that and perhaps the uncertainty of the chicken's running direction could cause you to hurt yourself??? dunno? i'd stick to setting out cones for agility runs.

the white sprinter you mention was allan wells........i did read once he did no lifting at all, just punch bag stuff.

i'm not doubting it's use for conditioning, but perhaps there's better things for javelin throwers......even as general as punch bag stuff is........maybe the actual punching could also lead to injury of impact upon the bag? i bet someone on here has hurt themselves doing that.......didn't you ev's???

also aj, please don't feel the need to apologise! it's a forum! people are allowed to say what they want.

[sam]

Woah..ok everyone does something a little different as part of their training. I play Squash. it's great for developing arm speed in all directions. It also improves agility and leg work.

Lets not be too keen to jump on each other's backs just because they show or say somehting different to what we know as the "norm"

Instead choose to ask WHY and HOW they do/say what to do..Evaluate the answer and take positives from it that you can.

[slinger]

for sure! i played a bit of badminton, on the subject of racket sports - zelezny played tennis i gather........

if i had my time again i'd have done ballet maybe first, but then again i probably wouldn't have done javelin, maybe gymnastics......maybe judo, i think this would suit my body type better.

no-one should jump down anyone's throat regarding training ideas, not very polite is it at the end of the day........plus it probably discourages others from posting what they do.

i see loads of names on line, but they rarely interact with postings, maybe they feel they will get jumped on - the forum's success is down to people posting - if no-one posts the forum dies - sad, but true.

[Administrator]

I'm not including boxing in my training plan anymore because I broke my hand doing it at the start of last season!

BTW - if anyone wants to contact Breaux Greer, he is one of the associates on the javclub myspace. You can send him a personal message from there, he's quite friendly and willing to answer questions. Have to agree with Slinger that he should have/could have/will throw further than 87m - it seems his biggest problem is that he was always trying to throw 100m with every throw he did. Strangely enough his 87m throw in the last global championships happened in qualification and was the biggest throw of the whole championships - perhaps he wasn't trying to throw the skin off the spear for a change and did things more efficiently than normal?

www.myspace.com/thejavelinclub

[jeremy]

Guys,

A big apology to all.

It was never my intention to try to "blow anyone off the forum". looking back at my previous post, I can see that it is open to that sort of interpretation.

Sometimes it's hard to get the "tone of a post" right (, that's both right in the spirit of its "poster" and right in the spirit of those who read it.

Again, all opinions are valid, more than that they are encouraged; the more the merrier.

I truly value the forum and its spirit. Sincere apologies if "the way I threw the stick", was so poor that "only the wrong end of it" landed on the forum.

If there was a Smilie for humble pie, I'd throw a few on right now.

Jezza,

PS threw a cheeky 53metres in training at TVAC (pb just over 50m)!

[motherhen]

Using a speedball is a fantastic way of working out although personally i find it even better if you use a hammer fist technique with it as it puts the arms in a more replica position (its harder to do it as fast but hey quality is more important at times).

For those of you that dont know what a hammer fist is:-
www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~bb/dg/SelfDefence/Strikes/SelfDefenceStrikes.htm

I found it rather amusing when being taught a hammer fist drills to encourage "using your hips to get more force behind it" which was identical to good old fashioned javelin drills. My other half rolled his eyes as it yet proved athletics as the superior sport underpin all others lol

I have found urban combatives have a lot of good cross training aspects ie good old fashioned circuits, plyos, kettle bells, hitting tyres with sledge hammers and resistance harness work.

Obviously the additional knowledge in self protection hasn't gone a miss either ;D

[wez]

I seem to remember Tessa telling me once that both she and Fatima both included speed ball work as a regular part of their training.

BUT

If you live 'oop north' way up north i mean, then we all have axes to play with. I've got 4 of vary weights and sizes and states of disrepair (oops).

Chopping wood on a high block is a great specific yet different jav exercise, promotes speed and power AND CONTROL. I've even managed to balance 3 blocks in a tower and chopped the lot through (still have both legs also by the way- at least for now)

Chopped about 5 tonnes last summer- and have another 5 or so waiting to be done this winter. I'm all for trying new things even if they aren't sooooo specific you just have to remember that this sort of stuff probably won't make you much better at jav but it will make you a better allround athlete which will help you in the end with your important specific training.

My point is doing different stuff is fun and can break the monotiny of regular training programs- i also like to indulge in a little welly wanging around midsummer at the various country festivals- great fun...

SERIOUSLY GUYS Lets not be too anal about what eachother do, as long as you cover the specifics it don't really matter what you do for kicks- although if you are running a couple of marathons per week i guess that might have a negative effect on your training.

love and peace to you all

[robyn2012]

Ok I know that this has hardly anything to do with the topic! me and my friends where puzzled! how to you pronounce his name?

[wez]

like this i believe


Breaux Greer

= brew grear

[slinger]

"bro grear" for me!

[wez]

bloody northereners-


s'il vous plaît = silver-plaaate

[slinger]

;D

[robyn2012]

thanks! put's me out of my misery lol!