Updated: Jim Evs throwing video

[jimevs]

Hi guys and girls,

Nige has kindly sent me a video of me throwing from the session at the weekend and also sent me some great stuff to work on.

Just wondered if anyone has any other comments on my lobbing at the moment?

I am feeling fairly fit at the moment so should be able to throw at least once a week until the season unless I break something.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ynNKaGyWrSc

[wez]

I quite like it Jim mate, the only thing that stands out to me is what you said yourself about coming around the right of your block and not over the top of it, otherwise mate its looking good. As soon as you get yourself a bit sharper i think you will be going great guns

[jimevs]

Please feel free to comment on this if you have any thoughts people. I've posted it here to try and get observations from people and suggestions for things that can help.

I've got no coach to upset and have found people's comments in the past very useful so please feel free to make any observations.

I'm planning on capturing some more videos from different views to help so will hopefully post them next week if its worth it.

[lifebeginsat40]

James

Further to what we were discussing, I really cant see a lot wrong with what you are doing. One thing that you were doing was falling to the right side at the end of the throw, I believe caused by your left foot pointed heavily over to the right causing you to lose balance. This was not on all of your throws as you can see on these 2 pics of further throws. As Wez says, when you throw over the top and your left foot position stays in line it doesnt happen and you get a better throw. This only happened when you overcooked it in the run up, but then everyones throws are compromised if they try and push things too hard.

I was so pleased to see a lot of your confidence coming back, and things will improve this year, no doubt!

[slinger]

firstly jim that's probably the best i've seen you throw tbh.

your run up look quite smooth and transition to the X overs phase.

X overs have rhythm, width and equality and set you up well for the impulse stride, impulse is good, with good extension off the left, body positioning at final right foot contact is good, as the right foot is slightly ahead of the bodies C of G, this lays you back nicely and gives you range to work. Right foot positioning at final right foot contact is good, as it's heading toward 2 o clock and the key for me is that the right knee always continues to move forward, there's no pausing moments after the right foot contacts, so essentially you are carrying your run up momentum through the throw well, where it meets a pretty good lower left side block ie through the actual delivery your bodies C of M doesn't move forward much at all - you can see during the slow mo version the bracing effect of the lower left side and a jolt as it then accelerates the right side.

the only real niggles i'd have and what i'd been keen to work on are to make sure that during the pull and strike with the arm, you don't let the elbow tuck in as it does, as you'll get elbow problems doing that, plus it shortens the length of pull - maybe try some ball or javelin drills where you pronate the elbow and turn the throwing hand in as you strike, or maybe try and visualize lifting your arm pit?

someone who has a similar linear style is juha laukkanen



frames 14 and 15 shows the shoulder lift and arm pit lift, maybe a thought, to try and erase the initial movement of the pull being the elbow tucking in low?

another point i'd be looking at would be to try and hold the left hand side of your upper body where it is for just a little bit longer, it's good then just and so pulls away a tiny bit early, this will just give you a bit more delay with the top half - it may also be a reason why you fall to the right after delivery?

you said that they go quite low? maybe try mucking about with your sight line to see what that does? it might just knock off the flatness the javelin has coming into delivery this'll give the javelin possibly abit more angle for release and also less negative angle of attack as if the javs really flat you'll be creating maybe too much unwanted negative angle of attack so maybe just and so giving the javelin a more steeper angle will give it a more neutral angle of attack but i'm talking about smidges here and tiny little things this is just one throw and looking too much into one throw for every tiny detail shouldn't be the case, however though, once you nail a block and post right over the left leg and hold that jolt from a good block in your core better it'll add lift to the spear, as will the lifting the arm pit during delivery as said previous.

personally i wouldn't be looking to change things with what your lower body is doing during the throw, that'll all get even better the sharper you get and the more javelin practice you get in, but those two main points imo hold the left side a tad longer and get the arm elbow pronatation so the arm pit lifts this way you'll get a proper inverted 'C' shape and you'll hit a cleaner javelin.

another great example is these three pics, just look at the right elbow and shoulder -







once you've got to grips with those, you can turn up the juice and use some of that running speed you have and then javelins could start to fly a long, long way!

[nije]

As I said when I sent the vid - you activate your left side too early which is why you don't really get the big bow or inverted C position. This is why you seem to throw 'ahead' of yourself somewhat. I also think you could get a bit more time out of your pull by a foot longer last stride.

Your bent arm is what I term collapsing the back of the throw and as Phil metioned will hurt your elbow eventually. Look at how high steve and Juha's hand and elbows are when the strike (frame 2 and frame 15 respectively.

It's good though but as your follow through shows, you are too soft on your left leg/side as you get lots of penetration with out really stopping or bracing. YOu left arm has to be more delayed to create the separation to get that bow position.

[jimevs]

lifebeginsat40 said:

James

I'm looking at the floor again!!

Thanks guys for the comments and again to Chris for the pics and Nige for the vid (and slinger for examples).

I'm just keen to get this sorted in the next 3 or 4 months. This time last year I was in 100 times worse shape than I am now and so I feel like I have to make the most of being fit while it lasts (thats not to say I'm not working at getting fitter).

I feel like I understand whats being said and each of the comments and observations seem to tie in with one another. I am concerned that flexibility may add to my shortening and collapsing of my right side and is something I am addressing along with the technical adjustments so I hope to make a difference in that department over the coming months.

[jimevs]

Hi all,

I've got another video from last night so thought it would be worth posting to see if people think there's been any change over the last 2/3 weeks.

I did a session last night with the Godfather and Chris at Basildon and I was fairly pleased with the way I was throwing, certainly some of the distances that I was acheiving.

If you get a chance, please take a look at the new video and let me know if you have any comments. One thing I notice and was conciously trying to acheive was a lift from going over my left leg as opposed to round it as I was in the last video. Still seem to be pulling the left away a little early and hence the right is coming in short as a result. I did feel that throughout the session I was acheiving a better wrap with my left arm across my body though so its slowly going the right way.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1tlNp_8njSE