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Post by kamikaze on Jul 25, 2006 13:54:07 GMT 1
I am an M45 VET with a PB of 31.07 who threw for the very first time last year on blood and guts and (apparently) a fair bit of runway speed.
I worked hard this winter and now I am (according to my coach) no worse technically than he was and he was an international.
HOWEVER
I have only thrown twice this year and I was looking for a big one on Saturday. It was not to be!
In the warm up I threw the longest throw of my life, at least 35M.
The second warm up was nearly as long.
I WAS SURE I WOULD GET A NEW PB IF ONLY I COULD STAY RELAXED.
I was first to throw and JUST as I was planting some herbert, close to the scratchline, yelled something out.
Of course I lost my concentration and fouled.
The experience made me so nervous that I just pulled the next two into the ground and I failed to make the cut.
What could I/Should I have done (other than throw better in the next two rounds)
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Post by Aaronh on Jul 25, 2006 14:17:41 GMT 1
aim one of your throws towards whoever yelled. it will be a waste of a throw but will be worht it
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Post by Patience on Jul 25, 2006 14:54:41 GMT 1
Learn to block out the noise around you. You know it makes sense.
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Post by kamikaze on Jul 25, 2006 15:07:58 GMT 1
Patience
I appreciate what you are saying, particularly as an ex pole vaulter.
You would however have had to be wearing ear defenders not to have been put off by this idiot.
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Post by Big C on Jul 25, 2006 15:40:49 GMT 1
I think this could highlight an issue with mental preparation. Within any technical event, you should be in a near state to hypnosis with the amount of concentration and relaxation and controlled aggression. but it takes practice and should be done in training for a couple of throws to start with and increase the number of throws done like this as you progress to be able to hold the mood longer and get into it quicker.
Thats presumably how backley could add another 7-10m in competition.
Mental preparation is a massive part of a warm up in competition and if its is done correctly, a naked female (or male for you ladies) volleyball team could walk in front of you and you'll still hit a Pb.
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Post by Patience on Jul 25, 2006 16:06:12 GMT 1
Ypu could have always raised the point at the time that your throw was compromised as you were subject to distraction in the last minute of your throw. It has to be dome at the time, no point raising it later. You might be permitted another throw, although from what you've said that won' have helped.
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Post by slinger on Jul 25, 2006 16:54:27 GMT 1
if you are as big and as bald as me i'd shout abuse at the idiot and tell him to "move along" i'm sure they would then clear off of a look ;D - i'd then continue with this vain of anger and proceed to vent it upon the spear..........this is what i would call getting "my mad up".............the spear would without doubt go further. - not very nice nor nice to watch and wouldn't like the younger ones on here to do that, but it's just what i'd do, i'm normally a very calm person, bit daft really but put a spear in my hand and i transform into a monster! - at the end of the day you are passionate about what you do ............only a few people here have witnessed it, in fact just a "reminder" to mike [sorry mate!] i used it to beat you in my very last ever comp........ [man, i'm sorry! haha!] i used to do something on the lines of shouting like a mad man before even on the run way" come on, have it, this time" then again shouting and looking really evil at the end of the run way and shouting so EVERYONE can hear in the whole stadium and then continue the shouting for a bout a further minute............ .........."COME ON! COME ON! COME ON! COME ON!" i'm sure if you tried that then they wouldn't shout again!
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Post by kamikaze on Jul 25, 2006 17:29:40 GMT 1
Thanks all, this berk is quite a good thrower, but I found this completely unacceptable.
What was worse is that he was then the most vociferous of all in pointing out to the officials that I had stepped/fallen over the scratch line.
Ultimately the only solution is to reach a level of self confidence where twerps like that no longer bother you....
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Post by Patience on Jul 25, 2006 17:39:42 GMT 1
If he pointed out I'd stepped on / ever the line, I'd have imagined, in my mind, flattening him then pinning him to the ground with the spear. Then followed on with evil thoughts about crap throws in the next round. But then I'm not very nice.
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Post by slinger on Jul 25, 2006 20:47:24 GMT 1
kamikaze, a bit of naming and shaming wouldn't go a miss, then some of the more vocal of us could give him/her a "bit of advice"
oh chris a naked female volley ball team walking past WOULD get even backer's attention........reckon it could be a case of which is the javelin?
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Post by Patience on Jul 25, 2006 22:40:38 GMT 1
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Post by kamikaze on Jul 26, 2006 13:45:23 GMT 1
I am tempted to name and shame but trial by website is not my style.
I suspect teh person concerned may well have read this in which case he will recognise himself.
I won't forgive him speaking to the official as long as I live.
It was none of his damn business as he was not going to be compromised ( and neither was anyone else) and I would not have allowed the throw to stand anyway.
The only time I have said anything to an official about someone else's throw was last year when a number of us protested that one of our rival competitors was being red flagged on obvioulsy point down throws.
On a positive note this guy did help one of the youngsters by lending him a javelin, so he can't be all bad.
I just wish he'd kept his trap shut while I was throwing.
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Post by wez on Jul 26, 2006 14:31:35 GMT 1
I think in responding to external distractions it shows that you are operating with a negative mindset. A positive mindset would be to note the distraction (intentional or not) and use it to your advantage, eg accelerate faster, hit harder and taller, really give it some.
If you get annoyed by stuff like that it is predestining yourself to do badly- kind of blaming failure on the incident or person which then gives you permission to fail. In the following rounds you were probably agitated and as such could not concentrate. Instead you should be thinking right i'll show him that it makes no difference to me.
Might sound like mumbojumbo- sorry i've lived with a psychologist for 10 years.
If you can't get in the zone or focused enough to block stuff like that out then, when in training get someone to try to put you off- shout at you etc. It could be a bit of fun but it also might help- seriously!!
Personally i spend most of my time on the runway trying to block all the other voices in my head out- so another one would just go utterly unnoticed
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Post by Aaronh on Jul 26, 2006 14:45:42 GMT 1
having someone shouting at you while training does help. i wont name names but my coach went through a stage of shouting at me to keep my arm high etc and now i dont hear him or anyone else while throwing
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Post by Patience on Jul 26, 2006 16:36:13 GMT 1
Yeah, you can either learn to tune in or tune out to the instructions that start just after you've started your run-up.
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