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Post by bradstock on Sept 11, 2009 20:33:45 GMT 1
As for your playground antics - I'm not interested. [/quote] Ha.... can't say I'm surprised by you declining my challenge "playground antics" give me a break...... Just proves what I thought cheers
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Sketch
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Post by Sketch on Sept 11, 2009 23:06:04 GMT 1
Bit like my best training throw of 75m, but I was a little bit more over the line then you was there. Shame I never got it on film.....oh well.
Mighty throw maybe..........but still has to be proved in a worthwhile comp. Javs weighed & centre of grav measured ....blah blah blah......hope there is a good field official on the 26th who will actually do that. If the distance is there, then power to you.
As for the slinger, in my book the man has always punched above his weight class in the jav department and in his prime never dodged a comp or a competitor. The man is just giving his opinion on the vid and a good one at that
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Post by lusis on Sept 11, 2009 23:29:59 GMT 1
the flight of the javs and the angle they have stuck in the ground is very similar to the old spec javs compared to the new spec which tend to have a greater angle of entry into the ground
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Post by jeremy on Sept 13, 2009 19:12:54 GMT 1
Just wanted to say something about Bradstock's flight.
I asked him what he thinks about between throws; he answered the wind and where I'm going to drill the spear.
I also notice (and copy) the posaition of the point of the javelin when he throws. For me, beiginners beed to have the point of the javelin against the head, nearer the chin than the eyes; and certainly not above or away from the head. Nearly all throwers lose the point in this way and boy does it cost them in distance.
I also would like to see The Bradstock throw 75, I've seen him throw a number of times (with my javelins), nothing would surprise me!
Just want to re-point out the point about the point and not losing the point, otherwise what's the point?
Some youngsters went to Bournemouth today, 5 javeliners, 5 pb's. On wednesday we only worked on one thing: point control( or rather the javelin carriage, of which point control is part).
Well done Ivan Peacock for organising this session. It also proves that "less is more".
Looking forward to this comp already !
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Post by sam on Sept 13, 2009 19:43:31 GMT 1
roald has thrown just under 70m in the uk this year guesting in a southern men's league match. Personally i'm looking forward to this comp!
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Post by slinger on Sept 14, 2009 13:45:18 GMT 1
Just proves what I thought cheers "Proves what you thought" - which would be what exactly? Like I said Roald, till it's thrown in competition I won't be convinced, not that that would bother you in the slightest. Throwing Javelins at 47 years of age after a very long career is an amazing feat IMO, there aren't many 40 odd year olds I know can throw as far as you do.
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Post by slinger on Sept 16, 2009 13:49:51 GMT 1
Roald, do you not want to answer my question? I see you have been online, but no answer.
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Post by nije on Sept 16, 2009 16:44:16 GMT 1
I can assure you that looking at the videos these are not old type javs, anyone who has thrown the old types reasonable far will know that they float and the also float on the way down and would almost certainly not stick in esp at 75-77m.
I am a bit unclear why some people are taking a stance against Roald who has actually nearly thrown 73m in comp this year. Only a week or so ago Caroline questioned one of the U17 girls ability to be able to save herself for the UK schools final and the girl threw a big pb as predicted and Caroline was quick to acknowledge it and congratulate her. But why question in the first place - Roald loves it and is still doing it so surely he at least deserves out support or at least admiration. Huffy is possibly more vocal in predicting what he is going to throw (and good luck to him as I for one have always supported him and the others) and he hasn't been shot down like this.
This forum is generally positive about the event but sometimes there are a few dissenting voices for what reason I don’t know. I seem to recall both Goldie and Nick Neiland being called chokers over the years and in one case, Nick was informed it was me when it clearly wasn't/ On the AW site people were saying that Merv shouldn't have gone to the worlds and another poster recently rubbished the next people down the lists. I think we should all tow the line as an event and be positive about it.
My last thing is this, before dave Ottley (and Roald) in their latter years, we had nobody making finals or even qualifying - a bit like our distance runners and our current crop of sprinters (barring relays). Sport sometimes works in cycles and we were spoilt by Mick and Steve who were wining medals and making finals - we are just back at that stage where other events are now or were before. We have not got the raw talent we had say in the early 90s where we had Gary Jenson, Mark Roberson, Steve, Colin McKenzie, Mick, and me who were all throwing around 80 plus as U23's. At that time we also had a few like now from 75ish down such as Yatesy, faben, Harrison, Messom, Hatton, Baldwin, Parry, Hooper, Newenham, Bushnell, Crutchly, Stainton, Cotrell, Humphires, and Neiland latterly who would come to national league matches and throw around 70's and in some case not make the cut as happened at Kingston 1 year. These boys were very much throwing the same distances if not further than our current crop but were still a long way of the top 6 or 7 throwers. We are still not there yet but are coming back with a couple of lads who could throw over 80m or so over the next few years but is there anyone to replace Steve or Mick i.e 87m or 91m - stats would not suggest so but we need the 70m young men to get up to late 70's and then into the early 80's quite soon.
I say this because I was there when this all went on. I also remember reading an AW merit rankings report one year that commented that the javelin event looked in healthy shape but the reality was that top 6 had been the top six for the previous (I think 8 years) and Neiland apart – few looked like changing this dominance – let’s hope they don’t all retire together was the final word! It is time for our new breed to step up and this year I think we have seen some green shoots in the men ‘s event at least and in the junior section let us hope that all recent age best record holders actually come through to similar performances as seniors.
Peace out
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Post by sam on Sept 18, 2009 14:17:34 GMT 1
nice post nije!!
and not a pelling mistake to be seen...
for all those who have been reading about Roald's performances, if you want to see it in action for real then get to Biggleswade on the 26th. javelin is at 3pm
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